Nachbarn haben Trauben, die durchstechen, aber gerne sie schneiden, damit wir keine bekommen. Ist das Anpassung einiger, von meinem eigenen möglich zu wachsen?
Von: YeahItsRico
Nachbarn haben Trauben, die durchstechen, aber gerne sie schneiden, damit wir keine bekommen. Ist das Anpassung einiger, von meinem eigenen möglich zu wachsen?
Von: YeahItsRico
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They’re reaching over the fence to trim it? Or they’re coming onto your property to cut it?
It depends on the laws where you are.
But if it is allowed, yes. They are propable
Have you talked to them and asked if they would let it grow over? They might just assume you don’t want them hanging over.
A bit of a lengthy [article](https://pubs.nmsu.edu/_h/H322/index.html) from New Mexico State University, but comprehensive.
You should talk with your neighbors
They grow pretty easily from cuttings but you’ll be waiting a while to get any fruit. Might be simpler to make friends with the neighbor and ask if they would let some vines stay on your side.
They are but would only grow from quite a thick stem (I think thumb size is a good bet?). Maybe ask the neighbour if they will get you a good cutting from their side? It might need to be later in the year when they’re pruning.
Ask your neighbor for a cutting. You can get some good results with a section from a woody branch that has some green vegetative growth. You propagate the same way you would any other plant, either in water or directly into soil.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sejFyHaqClI
A quick Google search giving this video. Should be ok following this
Plant your own?
I’m surprised none of the grapes have planted themselves on your side already.
Cultivated grapes are always grafted, barring some minor and niche exceptions in isolated regions. This is because of a very significant pest, grape aphids. You should never plant grapes without an aphid resistant rootstock as this can help this pest spread further. Non-resistant rootstocks are also banned in most places because of this. While there is noone actively checking back yards, best to follow to rules to help the overall grape population and industry.
Grapes can be grafted and likely propagated but as this likely is a hand or winegrape and not a wild, resistant grape you should not. A grafted but small grapevine should not cost much more than 10$ or euros. Don’t propagated it.
talk to your stepdad. He may not know you’re interested in this and is just griping for something to gripe about (we all do it.) You could build a trellis for the bit that’s trailing over, and make it into something nice. Ask your neighbors not to trim that bit and let them know you appreciate the plant and are interested in cultivating it if that’s okay with them.
I understand your reluctance to talk to people about things like this since I am similar, but a little communication could go a long way and make this into a small but positive experience for more than just you. It’s worth the effort to try to reach out and not be worried about what your brain tells you other people *might* be thinking.
kindly ask them to quit trimming them.
this is so funny because i had a beautiful plant id trim from upstairs so it wouldn’t encroach on my neighbor’s space– never thought to ask if they’d mind– just trimmed it to avoid boundary crossing
If it’s a cultivated grape, I wouldn’t prop it… they’re usually grafted into special rootstock, so it’s most likely a Frankenstein with the vine of one cultivar “surgically attached” to the roots of another. The grower literally splices them together, wraps the “wound” while it’s healing and then once the graft has healed, they’ll transplant/sell the plant.
Pretty wild, huh?! It’s worth looking up grafting on YouTube just for the weirdness factor. It’s even possible to graft different species together… saw one video of a potato rootstock and a tomato vine, and it produced both potatoes and tomatoes! Less of each than a normal plant but it’s still cool.
There’s also speciality fruit trees that bear multiple types of fruit, and I’ve even seen tomato plants that grow like three types of tomatoes.
Also very common with normal fruit trees – I heard that all cultivated apple trees are grafting but not sure if that’s true. It’s why most attempts at propagating things like apple trees fail.
Like other commenters say: ask them!! There’s no harm in letting the grapes vine over, so get a trellis for them and let em trail!
Or, if they’re stubborn: get a vine of your own and refuse to trim it. Let it grow over theirs too 🙂 (don’t do this that’s honestly fucked up in hindsight. Do it)
They may also be trying to keep the fence from being destroyed.
I want to grow a plant not talk to people thats why I grow plants 😭😭
The vine is growing through the fence, neighbor will trim them, if not, stepdad will.
No need to ask anyone, just take a cutting. Not sure what’s the best way to prop this, though, but seeing as they will get trimmed, air layering is probably off the table.
I’d try water, maybe in a box with moist sphagnum (or moist paper towels if you don’t have moss). Give it good light and see what happens.
Try air layering
Your neighbor trims them because they’ll damage the wooden fence if they let them grow between the wooden planks.
You can trim anything on your side of the fence from heaven to hell. At least that is what an attorney told me when my neighbor refused to trim his trees when the branches of his trees grew to within a foot of my roof. I told him I was going to have them trimmed to the property line and he threatened to sue me. I guess his lawyer told him the same, as I never heard from him after I had them trimmed. We no longer spoke and he eventually sold the house and the new owner actually asked if I would mind him removing the nasty sweet gum trees, and I said do it! Please!
Maybe neighbor is trying to hide the black pipe on your side by letting the grapes grow upword at the corner? I know I would. Definitely trim vines coming through the fence.
Don’t know about propping, we spent all season cutting vines back.
Former senior nursery technician who propagated grapes. There are a few ways to do it. Since they’re cutting them back frequently you’ll only have green wood to work with. You can get a tray of 50:50 vermiculite:perlite and stick cuttings with at least 2 nodes in it. One on the bottom, one at the top with one leaf. Cut the leaf in half to reduce the rate of transpiration. Keep the tray in a very moist area. Maybe a closed container with a humidifier? I’ve never propagated them at home but that’s as close as you can get to our setup without spending an unnecessary amount of money. If it doesn’t work for you, try again but with rooting hormone.