Dieser Raum hatte mehrere Jahre lang eine Membran und einen Holzschnitzel, um einen Kinderkletterrahmen. Als ich den Rahmen verkaufte, schien der Holzschnitzel gut verrottet zu sein, aber es gab viele Unkraut. Wir haben es aus dem Grassamen ausgestoßen, da ich mir nicht sicher war, was ich als nächstes mit dem Raum anfangen sollte. Das funktionierte gut, dass es sehr holprig und hässlich war.

    Mir wurde geraten, die Membran aufzunehmen, wenn ich einen Neuanfang machen wollte, also habe ich den gesamten Rasen und die Membran im Mai aufgerissen – zurück zu nackten Tonboden. Allerdings habe ich mir den Ball vom Ball ausgelöst und fünf Monate später sieht es so aus!

    Ich würde das gerne in einem Öko-Weg beheben, aber realistisch gesehen fühlt es sich jetzt wie ein zu großer Job für mich an. Eine Gartenclearance -Firma hat mir gesagt, dass Roundup mein Bestes ist – und eine Safe – Lösung, aber ich kämpfe darum, die Vor- und Nachteile zu durchsuchen.

    Ich möchte in der Lage sein, den Raum für meine jetzt Teenaged-Familie zu nutzen und würde einige Gedanken wirklich schätzen, um ihn am besten zu verwandeln: Runden oder weiße Essig und harte Arbeit oder etwas anderes?

    Von: Plastic-Employee-952

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    1. smith4jones on

      Start at the fence and work back to the hard standing/lawn. No point compacting the ground and making more work later.
      Start small and challenge your self to an area before a brew/ snack.

      The perennials best to get the root out, most looks like docks and thistles (plus crumble in the new fence), so these you want to try and get the tap root (the long big one). The rest can just be cut down with a hoe.

      Find something to kneel on and protect your knees, pop some tunes on your headphones and get going

    2. Hard labour, but it doesn’t need to be that hard!

      Using pesticides or chemicals could make it more difficult for you to grow things in future

      Removing them manually will take a bit of time but it will also help you learn how to recognise weeds so you can pull them out when they are much smaller (much easier with smaller roots)

      If I was tackling this area, I’d probably pick a single weed type e.g. dandelion, dock, bittercress, and focus on removing that first. Then move to the next one. Even spending 10min a day or a few times a day will make a big difference!

      As you have teenagers, you could always assign each one a different weed to remove and make it competitive 😅

      (tho I do remember walking nearly 10km to avoid garden work as a teenager… Mileage may vary 🤣)

      Edit: a hori-hori is an excellent tool for weed removal – good for shallow and deep roots

    3. TheBikerMidwife on

      Pick a spot and clear it. A foot square. Extend out from that. A foot square isn’tuch but will take you 15 minutes and suddenly, it’s all done. Then it’s just nabbing weeds before they take hold again. Time and persistence. Roundup is massive overkill for this plot.

    4. Mostly_Vegan on

      Pull it all up, dig it over too if you like.. then put a couple of layers of cardboard down over the whole lot [remove sellotape first]. Then cover in new soil.. new weeds will blow in on the wind/ nature will find a way but should be easier to keep on top of.

      Other option is to get a Dutch hoe and keep going hoeing weeds when you see them.

    5. longassballzz on

      Quickest, easiest, and most environmentally friendly way is to cover it in cardboard over winter. Either old boxes or you can buy rolls from Amazon. Needs to be plain cardboard. Then cover it with collected leaves. Collect leaves from your garden, street, anywhere… You might feel funny but no one cares. If possible add some wood chip to weigh it down. Strim first if you’ve got one. Will rot down over winter and be ready to plant in late spring.

      All free if you can get the boxes

    6. Mikekallywal on

      Dealing with this on parts of my allotment right now.

      If you dont want to use a gardening fork to loosen the soil, try a hori hori knife to get down alongside the deep roots and loosen them. Don’t just chop the tops off, get as much root out as possible!

      It’s also much easier after a day or two of rain, nows a good time.

    7. Mow mow mow, most plants hate being trimmed like grass can cope with, with that rotted mulch, add a decent amount of fresh topsoil, mix it together and get to an approximate levelness you want and chuck a decent amount of clover in with your grass seed, that way the clover feeds your soil and if you turn over again you’ve added green fertilizer, personally I’m a fan of trying to deplete the weed seed bank built up in the soil rather than suppress.

    8. barrybreslau on

      Spade. Dig it over and remove the weeds. Remove any rubble, bag it and take it to the tip. Think about what you want to achieve, lawn with beds? Paved area?

    9. Strangelyblue93 on

      Round up (glyphosate) is harmful to human health: [source](https://gardenerbible.com/is-roundup-weed-killer-harmful-to-humans/).
      Also it hurts bees, birds and other beneficial insects. Our garden was treated with glyphosate before we moved in and it remained a dust bowl for the best part of a year.

      White vinegar and pulling them up with help if needed seems a good solution! It’ll soon be looking nice again. Good luck 🙂

    10. beachyfeet on

      Never let things like docks seed themselves. Even if you have to take 15 minutes out of a very busy schedule it’s worth strimming everything down once a fortnight to prevent this happening again.

    11. spudfish83 on

      With mine I stripped off to top inch or two, paying attention to roots or big weeds as I came to them, taking out as much as I could.

      Then I levelled the area, and put membrane down.
      Left it for about a year, looked underneath to see if anything had tried to come back and got rid of it.

      Then I took off the membrane and planted (bulbs in my case) and laid pebbles on top.

      I just pull up the odd rare weed that says hi, very little work in general.

    12. Edible-flowers on

      I’d put down cardboard all over the area to kill everything. Rake it & put grass seed down. Though if heavy rain is forecast it may wash the seed away.

    13. Diligent_Carob_6027 on

      I would dig as much of it out as you can manage just as some of those seem quite established so it’ll be good to weaken them. When I tackled my garden earlier this year I did half an hour each day to clear it (it’s somehow less soul destroying than thinking you’ll need an entire day) and quite often I’d carry on a bit longer than that and it was done in no time. 
      As soon as it’s clear, put down cardboard asap. Ideally double walled. You can buy rolls from Amazon however often these are what i would call “half a single wall” which just won’t cut it. See if you can find someone who has had a bunch of furniture or similar delivered as that will be nice thick cardboard that will work really well. 
      Once the cardboard is down put a good covering of bark or compost over the top – about 3 inches. 

      I did this for my garden at the start of the year as I’d been fighting an exhausting battle for the last couple of years against perennial weeds and it has been a game changer

    14. i_enjoy_silence on

      Roundup gets so much hate on this sub which I find baffling. It’s active ingredient is glyphosate which inhibits a certain enzyme found in plants only. It breaks down in soil. It is the most researched herbicide and has been around since the 70s and there is no firm evidence of it being ‘horrible stuff’ as another user put.

      Spraying a small area like this is miniscule compared to the hundreds to thousands of acres a typical farmer will spray. Modern farming is heavily geared to use of Roundup so I find it quite hypocritical that people criticise it’s use then happily go and purchase and eat products which were grown on farms reliant on its use.

      So spray it with Roundup. It won’t take long then in a fortnight it will all be yellow and dead. Every other method will take a lot longer and be labour intensive, just to feel smug.

      I’m an experienced and well informed gardener at a large property. Roundup and other herbicides are highly effective when used correctly.

    15. Fit_Rich_6748 on

      Honestly it actually looks really nice but if you wanna get rid of it quick chop it, cardboard on top and soil on top of cardboard

    16. Delicious-Bad-1448 on

      I feel you about tackling a big job like this. Do you have some friends? You could invite people to a gardening party – you buy pizza and everyone picks some weeds. You’ll be done in 30 mins! You might be surprised by who would be up for it!

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