I’m no expert but I don’t think its possible, especially after looking at the second pic.
betraying_fart2 on
🤣 easy is not a word i would use anywhere within the reply.
Birch roots spread wide, although relatively shallower than other trees. But wide. They can go out 10 metres.
I wouldn’t want one within 20 metres of my property, put it that way
sc_BK on
Should be pretty easy to move, won’t survive though.
Buttercups88 on
Thats quite well established at this point. It’s going to be difficult to move.
If you want it moved Id honestly just reccomend buying a new one and cutting it down, it would probably be easier than moving it. But It could be dug out, ive had success before with trees that size or larger but they take years to recover and tend to die back quite a bit with their roots being heavily damaged, for a fairly common tree like this you could probably buy a potted one of reasonable size from a garden center.
Honestly its roots are probably going to be sprawling under the garavel etc. and what you would be able to pull out without specialised equipment is going to be small and heavily damaged, the tree probably wouldnt survive and if it dose itll be rough.
Dry_Researcher7744 on
Likelihood of success…slim to none.
CottageWarrior on
Imo it would be fine to move. You’ll be hard pruning the roots, so it will need staking when it goes back in. Dig out as wide as possible, its going to be physical work. Best of luck, id love an update.
achillea4 on
I doubt it – looks pretty established. If you don’t want it there, I’d chop it down and buy a new one for the right position. Make sure it’s a dwarf variety.
Banjomir75 on
Like the others have already mentioned, fairly easy to move, but you will probably kill it in the process.
Silver Birch is a pioneer tree, spreads its roots quite wide, and does NOT like being moved.
CarlosPHN on
I’ve successfully moved larger Birch trees. To do it properly you’ll need to excavate the roots from quite a wide area, beyond the sleepers and well into the gravel.
Certainly worth giving it a try if the alternative is simply cutting it down, you’ve effectively got nothing to lose and it’s a good time of year to do it.
BudLightYear77 on
Step one, build time machine
Step two, plant it in a different spot
Easy
blackthornjohn on
Not at all easy, you need to do it now, the usual procedure is to dig a circular trench around the tree, about 16 inches from the trunk without cutting through any large roots, the trench only needs to go down to 6 inches below the roots,ideally the trench leans in towards the bottom, the tree is then laid over and the root ball is wrapped in hessian.
But as you’re only moving it a couple of feet you can adapt the technique, dig your trench on the side the tree isn’t moving to, once you have an idea of how deep the roots are dig a hole on the other side of the tree to slide the tree into.
Free off any roots that spread out through the trench, spread mycorrhizal fungi in the new position then position the tree, if it dry fill the hole with water and allow to drain before putting the soil back and firming it in thoroughly.
It should be supported for the first year, the simplest and most convenient way is with a pair of stakes on opposite sides, before putting the soil in thread the stakes through the roots to avoid any damage, lean the tree over and drive the stakes in, then using webbing tie the stakes to the tree with the one length of webbing crossing itself between the tree and each stake. To other way is 3 guy lines to 3 stakes, whichever technique you use remember to check there’s no damage being inflicted when you first install the supports and every 6 months.
mbridge2610 on
Simple to move, less simple to move AND keep it alive
palpatineforever on
moveing it easy
It living afterwards nearly impossible.
Leave it a few more years and you will probably want to remove it anyway even if you move it 2ft that wont be enough. Birch have shallow root systems so they are not good in small spaces next to hard standing, drives, patios etc. They are good in small gardens, but not good in situations like that.
I recommend just enjoying it while you have it and research what you could plant instead.
LisaandNeil on
We had around 20 Birch over two years bare rooted from a grower near Wisbech in the Fens. 15 foot trees that cost £12 a piece. Dig a hole, stake them well, 19 took and are growing well.
So, you can likely move this one, just make sure you give it loads of support, a decent feed and watering through it’s first season after relocation..
Exact-Put-6961 on
Just plant another, when established, cut this one down. Far less mess abd hassle.
Flowa-Powa on
That’s a beautiful wee tree
Cheap-Vegetable-4317 on
You’ll have to dig up your gravel I’d have thought. Might be easier to buy a new one, you can get a bare root birch this time of year dead cheap.
Edible-flowers on
I’m no expert, but could you prune it, dig out & around to get the roots out before replanting? Or replace with a shrub.
Due_Cauliflower_7786 on
Yeah, that wide root system is the real killer here. It’s a shame because moving it physically isn’t the hardest part. The shock from losing so many of those shallow roots is almost always fatal for a tree this established. You’d honestly be better off planting a new one in the exact spot you want.
dearfellow909 on
I’m a gardener by trade. You’re going to have to dig all of the roots out as much as humanly possible, worth a try, dig your planting hole first, the quicker its back in the ground the better. It is still fairly young, roots should not have gone too far down yet but it is possible that it might die. PS great time of year to do it. Just prepare everything carefully and quickly. Its more than likely with enough root to survive.
Wild-Condition7485 on
DON’T DO IT
benjamin6293 on
Don’t even try to move it. 5 years of roots establishing combined with a hot summer after you move it will kill it.
If you had a special machine to lift a 100kg rootball then maybe. Nothing wrong with where it’s planted now
Ok_Pen7290 on
Thats gonna cause issues with uprooting path and driveway, get it out now, dont post trees by paths, your gonna have to pay for any damage to public footpaths if you have planted trees close by, which you have unfortunately
smith4jones on
Easy to love, might not survive. Though it’s bare root season and birch are cheap to buy
travellers-palm on
I’m sure you have your reasons for moving it, but, it looks great there. I think the roots will probably be too large at this point though?
serverhouse on
possible, but lots of effort to potentially kill it.
Far quicker to chop it down and plant a new
Matthew_Bester on
I’d plant the new birch where you want it. This one might assist it and when you are happy with the size of the new one you can remove the old one.
MuddyBoots472 on
What’s the issue with it staying put? I have 3 of these Himalayan birch and after 9 years they are about a foot in width at the base. Take off the lowest branches to raise the crown so they don’t interfere with your vehicles
gardensandwatches on
If you do dig as big a rootball as you can but do it now whilst it’s dormant. If you do it in spring you will likely lose it. Personally I wouldn’t move it though.
Federal-Ad-7824 on
Roots will now be under the pavement and the cobbled area.
You can lift it but do not expect it to live.
bluntmandc123 on
1.Remove the surrounding plants and wood frame of the bed.
2. Dig a circular trench roughly 3 feet in radius around the tree.
3. Dig down under the tree, basically trying to Dig out a half sphere.
4. Move to new position
5. Keep well watered
If you do end up moving it, remove these branches, not right down to the trunk, leave about 3cm of the branch for it to heal around. Removing these branches will create less demand on the tree for water and make the tree focus on root growth rather than leaf growth this summer. That’s the only way the tree might survive transplanting as it will be losing a similar amount of root when dug up 👍
InidRuus on
The root ball would need to be massive for it to survive, I would just accept it’s where it is or cut it down if there’s a reason it needs to be moved. It’s possible to move without killing it, but it would be a huge amount of effort and it might just die anyway.
bbgt82 on
Perfect time to move in January. Sooner rather than later. As much rootball as possible. Be careful not to bury it any deeper than current as this will suffocate.
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I’m no expert but I don’t think its possible, especially after looking at the second pic.
🤣 easy is not a word i would use anywhere within the reply.
Birch roots spread wide, although relatively shallower than other trees. But wide. They can go out 10 metres.
I wouldn’t want one within 20 metres of my property, put it that way
Should be pretty easy to move, won’t survive though.
Thats quite well established at this point. It’s going to be difficult to move.
If you want it moved Id honestly just reccomend buying a new one and cutting it down, it would probably be easier than moving it. But It could be dug out, ive had success before with trees that size or larger but they take years to recover and tend to die back quite a bit with their roots being heavily damaged, for a fairly common tree like this you could probably buy a potted one of reasonable size from a garden center.
Honestly its roots are probably going to be sprawling under the garavel etc. and what you would be able to pull out without specialised equipment is going to be small and heavily damaged, the tree probably wouldnt survive and if it dose itll be rough.
Likelihood of success…slim to none.
Imo it would be fine to move. You’ll be hard pruning the roots, so it will need staking when it goes back in. Dig out as wide as possible, its going to be physical work. Best of luck, id love an update.
I doubt it – looks pretty established. If you don’t want it there, I’d chop it down and buy a new one for the right position. Make sure it’s a dwarf variety.
Like the others have already mentioned, fairly easy to move, but you will probably kill it in the process.
Silver Birch is a pioneer tree, spreads its roots quite wide, and does NOT like being moved.
I’ve successfully moved larger Birch trees. To do it properly you’ll need to excavate the roots from quite a wide area, beyond the sleepers and well into the gravel.
Certainly worth giving it a try if the alternative is simply cutting it down, you’ve effectively got nothing to lose and it’s a good time of year to do it.
Step one, build time machine
Step two, plant it in a different spot
Easy
Not at all easy, you need to do it now, the usual procedure is to dig a circular trench around the tree, about 16 inches from the trunk without cutting through any large roots, the trench only needs to go down to 6 inches below the roots,ideally the trench leans in towards the bottom, the tree is then laid over and the root ball is wrapped in hessian.
But as you’re only moving it a couple of feet you can adapt the technique, dig your trench on the side the tree isn’t moving to, once you have an idea of how deep the roots are dig a hole on the other side of the tree to slide the tree into.
Free off any roots that spread out through the trench, spread mycorrhizal fungi in the new position then position the tree, if it dry fill the hole with water and allow to drain before putting the soil back and firming it in thoroughly.
It should be supported for the first year, the simplest and most convenient way is with a pair of stakes on opposite sides, before putting the soil in thread the stakes through the roots to avoid any damage, lean the tree over and drive the stakes in, then using webbing tie the stakes to the tree with the one length of webbing crossing itself between the tree and each stake. To other way is 3 guy lines to 3 stakes, whichever technique you use remember to check there’s no damage being inflicted when you first install the supports and every 6 months.
Simple to move, less simple to move AND keep it alive
moveing it easy
It living afterwards nearly impossible.
Leave it a few more years and you will probably want to remove it anyway even if you move it 2ft that wont be enough. Birch have shallow root systems so they are not good in small spaces next to hard standing, drives, patios etc. They are good in small gardens, but not good in situations like that.
I recommend just enjoying it while you have it and research what you could plant instead.
We had around 20 Birch over two years bare rooted from a grower near Wisbech in the Fens. 15 foot trees that cost £12 a piece. Dig a hole, stake them well, 19 took and are growing well.
So, you can likely move this one, just make sure you give it loads of support, a decent feed and watering through it’s first season after relocation..
Just plant another, when established, cut this one down. Far less mess abd hassle.
That’s a beautiful wee tree
You’ll have to dig up your gravel I’d have thought. Might be easier to buy a new one, you can get a bare root birch this time of year dead cheap.
I’m no expert, but could you prune it, dig out & around to get the roots out before replanting? Or replace with a shrub.
Yeah, that wide root system is the real killer here. It’s a shame because moving it physically isn’t the hardest part. The shock from losing so many of those shallow roots is almost always fatal for a tree this established. You’d honestly be better off planting a new one in the exact spot you want.
I’m a gardener by trade. You’re going to have to dig all of the roots out as much as humanly possible, worth a try, dig your planting hole first, the quicker its back in the ground the better. It is still fairly young, roots should not have gone too far down yet but it is possible that it might die. PS great time of year to do it. Just prepare everything carefully and quickly. Its more than likely with enough root to survive.
DON’T DO IT
Don’t even try to move it. 5 years of roots establishing combined with a hot summer after you move it will kill it.
If you had a special machine to lift a 100kg rootball then maybe. Nothing wrong with where it’s planted now
Thats gonna cause issues with uprooting path and driveway, get it out now, dont post trees by paths, your gonna have to pay for any damage to public footpaths if you have planted trees close by, which you have unfortunately
Easy to love, might not survive. Though it’s bare root season and birch are cheap to buy
I’m sure you have your reasons for moving it, but, it looks great there. I think the roots will probably be too large at this point though?
possible, but lots of effort to potentially kill it.
Far quicker to chop it down and plant a new
I’d plant the new birch where you want it. This one might assist it and when you are happy with the size of the new one you can remove the old one.
What’s the issue with it staying put? I have 3 of these Himalayan birch and after 9 years they are about a foot in width at the base. Take off the lowest branches to raise the crown so they don’t interfere with your vehicles
If you do dig as big a rootball as you can but do it now whilst it’s dormant. If you do it in spring you will likely lose it. Personally I wouldn’t move it though.
Roots will now be under the pavement and the cobbled area.
You can lift it but do not expect it to live.
1.Remove the surrounding plants and wood frame of the bed.
2. Dig a circular trench roughly 3 feet in radius around the tree.
3. Dig down under the tree, basically trying to Dig out a half sphere.
4. Move to new position
5. Keep well watered
Winter is the best time to do this.
https://preview.redd.it/z65dsvibcieg1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=436d1c990ef44867ffde18c20a1a2146897ad654
If you do end up moving it, remove these branches, not right down to the trunk, leave about 3cm of the branch for it to heal around. Removing these branches will create less demand on the tree for water and make the tree focus on root growth rather than leaf growth this summer. That’s the only way the tree might survive transplanting as it will be losing a similar amount of root when dug up 👍
The root ball would need to be massive for it to survive, I would just accept it’s where it is or cut it down if there’s a reason it needs to be moved. It’s possible to move without killing it, but it would be a huge amount of effort and it might just die anyway.
Perfect time to move in January. Sooner rather than later. As much rootball as possible. Be careful not to bury it any deeper than current as this will suffocate.